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Mon May 7 2001

Confs: 3rd ABQ "Lang of Spirituality" Bohmian Dialogue

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  1. Dan Moonhawk Alford, 3rd ABQ "Language of Spirituality" Bohmian Dialogue

Message 1: 3rd ABQ "Language of Spirituality" Bohmian Dialogue

Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 15:39:54 -0700
From: Dan Moonhawk Alford <>
Subject: 3rd ABQ "Language of Spirituality" Bohmian Dialogue

 Third International Albuquerque Science Dialogue: July 6-8. 2001
 on the Language of Spirituality and the Spirits of Languages

Join us in early July as intellectual and spiritual leaders from Turtle
Island and Down Under traditions, quantum physics, linguistics, cosmology,
and other disciplines gather in Albuquerque, NM, to dialogue over three days
in the tradition of David Bohm.

This year, in a continuation of the historic Bohmian Science Dialogues, we
will dialogue about our continuing Southern Circle focus, The Language of
Spirituality, with a sub-focus on The Spirits of Languages: Can different
languages, which we may now see as complex fields that speakers are inside
of and are also inside of speakers, be said to have different
"personalities" in the way they create a "world" and even "cosmos" for their
speakers -- creating, in Sakej Henderson's term, different langscapes of
reality? This idea is 3-400 years old in Western thought (a favorite topic
of linguistics founder W. von Humboldt) and is even applicable today to
mathematical and programming languages, each presenting a different
proscribed reality to its users, within which they think.

Should this be so, as we will discuss, then does each language to some
non-trivial degree shape the way you think while using that language? When
we think in English about something, are we constrained in how we CAN think?
Are other avenues (such as talking all day without using noun-phrases, or
pictures in the head) thus closed off to us that can be overcome only by
shifting to thinking in another language? Are all languages the same, just
different labels for the same things, or does each carve up or even
construct a reality for its users in some deeper, less obvious and more
profound way? 

Current indigenous evidence points to whole Native American language
families, such as Algonkian, comprised of not pictures-in-the-head languages
like we're used to but instead dynamic primes of process and relationship
which evoke somatic meanings the way Sign does, and which fit anciently into
an integrated system of sound, sign, and (written) symbol. The Slobinian
"thinking for speaking" for Algonkian languages must thus be drastically
different than for WIE languages such as English (though this claims nothing
about other kinds of thinking).

Agreeing to attend this Dialogue as Inner Circle participants are: Leroy
Little Bear (Moderator: Blackfoot, educator/lawyer) and Amethyst First Rider
(Blackfoot, educator), Sakej Youngblood Henderson (Cheyenne/Chickasaw,
educator/lawyer) and Marie Battiste (Mi'kmaw, educator), David Begay (Dine',
educator) and Nancy Maryboy (Cherokee/Dine', educator), Lloyd and Joyce
Pinkham (WA River People, educators), Greg Cajete (Tewa, author), Joseph
Rael (Tiwa, author), Stan Knowlton (Blackfoot, educator), Roberto
Gonzales-Plaza (Brazil, educator) Polly Walker (Cherokee, educator), Norm
Sheehan (Waradjuri, Tasmania, educator), Mary Graham (Australian aboriginal
elder), Brian Josephson (Nobel Laureate physicist), John Erskine (former
D.O.E. physicist/administrator), Fred Alan Wolf (physicist/author), Peter
Gold (author), Berney Williams (educator), Melanie Daily (Confucius expert),
Matthew Bronson (linguist/educator), and Dan Moonhawk Alford (Cherokee/Osage

See < > for details and registration. You may email
me with questions: Outer Circle seating is limited.

warm regards, moonhawk
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